[VeBetterDAO community audit] - the septet of the DAO

[Morb]

The septet of the DAO

Disclaimer: This community audit is based solely on the analysis of publicly available data, including on-chain transactions, fund allocations, public social media/chat activity and official Vechain/VeBetterDao platforms. This report was conducted independently; the author received no compensation or external requests to produce this data. This information is provided for educational purposes only to assist VeBetterDAO participants in making informed governance decisions. It does not constitute financial or investment advice. The author is not responsible for any decisions made based on this report.

Introduction

This community audit uncovers links between seven dapps created by two related groups. Although blockchain data is public, the specific connections tying these entities together often remain unnoticed. Transparent governance requires knowing exactly who you are voting for.

Facts

Connections

7 dapps are owned by 2 groups of people consisting of at least 4 people (4 distinct wallets with VBD actions). Based on publicly available on-chain data, they come from the same city. Apart from location, these groups share similar/identical source codes of their dapp platforms, manual withdrawal patterns, low to medium reward distribution, shared exit wallets across dapps, on-chain connected VBD creator NFT owner wallets, little to no communication with the community, disabled DM option on X profiles.
For unknown reason on 15th of December in the span of 40 minutes 3 wallets of these 2 groups made 28 b3tr token transfers to a wallet with no other activity on it.

(For simplicity mediator wallets and some of the transfers are excluded from the scheme)

Dapp, VD link	Creator NFT	Governance page, link	Treasury wallet, link	Status	Allocation received	Rewards with proofs	Manual withdrawals
B3ttery	110	VBD	Wallet	Endorsed
GoPaperoo!	107	VBD	Wallet	Listed
Ecobin	97, 98	VBD	Wallet	Unendorsed	6033	1.5%	5940, 98.5%
Plant2earn	93	VBD	Wallet	Endorsed	127691	17.1%	104418, 81.7%
Walkie	109	VBD	Wallet	Listed
Snapbox	95	VBD	Wallet	Endorsed	95060	8.9%	85682, 90%
B3tr smile	106	VBD	Wallet	Bought endorsement	83802	43.8%	47107, 56%

Teams

Group 1

Owner 1
Owner 2
Shared exit wallet to Binance between Ecobin and Plant2earn

Ecobin
Received allocation for 5 rounds. All manual withdrawals were transferred to the exit wallet, including manual user rewards. 1.5% rewards with proof. Asking for endorsement on their X account. No communication channels.

Plant2earn

1. Released NFT collection as a reward multiplier. Despite the promise to use NFT revenue to increase base rewards (source), they have made 0 deposits into the allocation wallet and sent all of the revenue to the exit wallet;
2. 10x multiplier NFT giveaway - results manipulated, undisclosed transfer of the NFTs to the owners of the dapp
   16th of Aug giveaway announcement (X post)
   19th of Aug giveaway winner announcement (X post)
   
   

Red flags: account age (created on the day of the winner announcement), entries (0)

22nd of Aug reward distribution wallet minted 25 10x multipliers (X post, NFT contract) + 1 regular mint
22nd of Aug owner 2 receives 10x multiplier NFT (tx)
23rd of Aug owner 1 receives 10x multiplier NFT (tx)
23rd of Aug 8 giveaway winners + 14 endorsers announced (8 wallets + 14 txs provided in the announcement)

In total 22 10x multiplier NFT winners were announced. Plant2earn claims “last 2 winners have not yet sent their wallet addresses”, while the remaining 2 10x NFTs were already sent to owner wallets. The missing last 25th 10x multiplier NFT is still owned by the reward distribution wallet.

3. Manual withdrawals with community/user rewards in the reason sent to exit wallet

1. 22nd of September: 8000 b3tr (GasFee, Community Reward, X, Team, Server)
   All sent to exit wallet (including NFT revenue)

2. 6th of October 3500 b3tr (GasFee,Dev,Community Raffles)
   All sent to exit wallet (including NFT revenue)

3. 23rd of October: 15 000 b3tr (Reward Dist, Future Dev, Team Allocation, Gas Fees, General Overheads)
   Untouched until 27th of October, sent to exit wallet (including withdrawal on 27th of Oct and NFT revenue)

4. Poor communication - last X post 9th of December, last announcement on Discord - 12th of December, unanswered tickets (I’m waiting for a reply since 27th of Nov), disabled DM option on X;

B3ttery, GoPaperoo!

Creator NFT owner wallets are on-chain connected to group 1 with no other connections. B3ttery is endorsed and will receive its first allocation on round 80, while GoPaperoo! Is still looking for endorsement.

Group 2

Owner 1
Owner 2
Shared exit wallet to Binance between B3tr smile, Snapbox and 1 one of the owner wallets.

Walkie

Looking for endorsement. No communication channels. Creator NFT wallet funded with VTHO by one of the owner wallets.

Snapbox

1. Manual withdrawals tagged as “reward distribution” and transferred to exit wallet
   Total: 21 553 b3tr*

2. User rewards with proof - 8 683 b3tr (9.2%);

3. Timed manual withdrawals (Mondays after the snapshot) - 90% withdrawn and sent to exit wallet;

4. No direct communication channels (DM option on X disabled);

5. Users are incentivized to vote for Snapbox to receive additional multipliers.
   

   

*Snapbox have manually distributed 40 b3tr to users in total, including B3tr swaps to VTHO

B3tr Smile

1. Manual withdrawals - 47 107 B3tr (56%) withdrawn and sent to shared exit wallet with Snapbox;
2. Direct communication channels - in-app ticket system (unanswered ticket since 28th of Dec);
3. Last X post 1st of Dec (DM option disabled).

Conclusion

1. Collectively 4 dapps received 312 586 b3tr in allocation (including dba) and withdrew 243 147 b3tr (77%) (most* of it sent to shared exit wallets);

*Excluding B3tr swapped to Vtho to cover gas fees, based on visual observations they made an insignificant portion of the manual withdrawals;

2. Collectively 4 dapps distributed 66 898 B3tr in user rewards with proof, 21% from received total allocation;
3. 4 dapps that have received allocation share 2 exit wallets to Binance;
4. None of the dapps have publicly disclosed their affiliation to each other.

Data updated on 3rd of January 2026.
Round 80 update

[akanoce]

Thanks for the effort @Morb

We definitely need clear team dox + governance proposal before having apps joining

2026: Quality > quantity

[Morb]

Round 80 update

Group 2

Snapbox

Received in allocation: 7 956,03 B3tr
Manually withdrew: 7806.22 B3tr (98%)

7500 b3tr swapped to VET, transferred to exit wallet and sent to Binance.

B3tr smile

Received in allocation: 8 895,34 B3tr
Manually withdrew: 6 395 B3tr (71%)

6300 b3tr swapped to VET, transferred to exit wallet and sent to Binance.

Both dapps withdrew funds to a shared exit wallet and sent to Binance within 21 minute window.

Group 1

Plant2earn

Received in allocation: 8 894,74 B3tr
Manually withdrew: 8000 B3tr (90%)

8000 b3tr swapped to Vet, transferred to exit wallet and sent to Binance.

B3ttery

Received in allocation: 313.1 B3tr
Manually withdrew: 0 B3tr

[MonkeyDCrypto]

More than enough evidence to do something about it imo

[JollyTheCoder]

Today, I read the article prepared by Morb. I noticed that some of the questions raised there had already been discussed previously and that I had responded to them at the time. Nevertheless, I believe it is important to address all of these points once again in a clear and comprehensive manner. Anyone who has further questions is welcome to reach out to me directly.

First of all, it should be emphasized that everything that happens within the Web3 ecosystem is inherently transparent and publicly verifiable. Presenting these processes as if they were carried out secretly does not reflect reality and is not a constructive approach.

From a technical standpoint, it is possible to use cross-chain tools to obscure fund movements or make them harder to trace. However, I have never chosen this path. I strongly believe that every transaction we make is explainable and can be justified without hesitation.

There are claims stating that 90% of the funds have been withdrawn, yet the dollar equivalent of this figure is notably omitted. For clarity, the amount withdrawn in the 80th round was only $130 USD.
At this point, it is reasonable to ask: how could expenses such as DApp development, node servers for Discord bots, AI-related costs, grants for the manual control team, server infrastructure, and distribution expenses possibly be covered with such an amount?

I have previously stated openly that I am personally acquainted with the owners of some of the DApps mentioned. I am not involved in any managerial or operational activities within these projects. My contribution is limited to providing support on Web3 integrations as well as accounting-related support.

We met through projects within the Solana ecosystem, and we have also collaborated on joint initiatives across certain networks. If there is interest, I can share further details about these projects and networks. This information has already been disclosed before, and there is no situation in which anything is being concealed.

As discussed before, in the interest of transparency and so that everyone can see and be fully informed, I have not deleted any comments—positive or negative—including the article shared in our Discord channel.

Regarding the account that was reported as having received 28 B3TR, this was not a transfer but part of a testing process for an upcoming project. The application to App Hub was submitted directly by me through my own main account via GitHub. If there had been any intention to hide this activity, it could have easily been done using a secondary account. There was no need for that.

1MPXL is my personal project, and it will be announced publicly once it reaches a sufficient level of maturity.

The accusations related to NFT manipulation were particularly disappointing. I firmly believe that I have acted fairly and transparently throughout this process. The two undistributed NFTs are still held in our wallet and can be distributed via a raffle or any method the community prefers. I do not believe there has been any injustice in this matter.

Finally, I would like to add the following:
VBD is not my only responsibility in life. I am married and have children, and I need to dedicate time to my family. In addition, I run a software company that serves hundreds of clients in my region, and ensuring the continuity of their operations is also my responsibility.

The claim that I have communication issues is, in my view, unfair. I do my best to respond to all bug reports and support tickets as promptly as possible. Those who have received direct support from me can attest to this.

My position remains unchanged: I am committed to transparency and openness. There is nothing to hide.

[BreakingBallz]

Thanks for providing information so far. Can you let us know what the monthly expenses are to run plant to earn? The community misses key context like this when seeing such a big percentage taken out weekly.

Can I ask you. If you have a busy schedule and other life responsibilities, what do you feel is the purpose of having a dapp on the dao

We are hoping to find individuals who can grow and build their dapps, and discover revenue streams, so they can reinvest in the DAO.

Of course, it’s hard to keep up with when it can’t pay the bills at home. However, planning to create another project suggests that you have some time.

Is this other project you’re working on also for the dao?

[Morb]

Hi, thanks for addressing some of the concerns.

@JollyTheCoder

First of all, it should be emphasized that everything that happens within the Web3 ecosystem is inherently transparent and publicly verifiable. Presenting these processes as if they were carried out secretly does not reflect reality and is not a constructive approach.

While what you say about on-chain transactions being public is true, affiliation between dapps mentioned in this audit has not been disclosed publicly, and it takes a trained eye to read the blockchain. I’ve tried to reach out to most of the dapps to confirm the affiliation.

Snapbox
B3ttery
Ecobin

Unanswered ticket on B3tr Smile

Unanswered ticket on Plant2earn Discord

GoPaperoo!, Walkie did not have any contact information available at the time of making the audit.

@JollyTheCoder

There are claims stating that 90% of the funds have been withdrawn, yet the dollar equivalent of this figure is notably omitted. For clarity, the amount withdrawn in the 80th round was only $130 USD.
At this point, it is reasonable to ask: how could expenses such as DApp development, node servers for Discord bots, AI-related costs, grants for the manual control team, server infrastructure, and distribution expenses possibly be covered with such an amount?

Those are not claims, but facts. While it is true market conditions are unfavorable, it is up to the dapp owners to communicate this with the community and plan accordingly.
This brings up the question, if it’s challenging to maintain one dapp, why launch more dapps?

@JollyTheCoder

From a technical standpoint, it is possible to use cross-chain tools to obscure fund movements or make them harder to trace. However, I have never chosen this path. I strongly believe that every transaction we make is explainable and can be justified without hesitation.

Yes, there are some transfers that should be addressed.

1. Transfers to shared exit wallet with Ecobin (dapp that withdrew 98.5% of allocation);
2. Plant2earn manual withdrawals that include “Community reward, Community raffles, Reward dist” in the tag and are sent to Binance.

@JollyTheCoder

This information has already been disclosed before, and there is no situation in which anything is being concealed.

Can you point to where this was disclosed?

@JollyTheCoder

The accusations related to NFT manipulation were particularly disappointing. I firmly believe that I have acted fairly and transparently throughout this process. The two undistributed NFTs are still held in our wallet and can be distributed via a raffle or any method the community prefers. I do not believe there has been any injustice in this matter.

The 10 winners of the giveaway were announced on 19th of August giving plenty of time to re-draw 2 remaining winners. Giveaway draw requirements (account age younger than the GA itself) and data (0 entries) raise concerns of manipulation (source). The 2 undistributed NFTs were transferred to owner wallets and used as a 10x multiplier on Plant2earn.

I can only speak of the publicly available data.
My conclusion is that there have not been any attempts to do another GA for 2 remaining NFTs until this audit.

@JollyTheCoder

My position remains unchanged: I am committed to transparency and openness. There is nothing to hide.

Would be great if you disclosed dapps you are managing and you have affiliation with. Also, would be great if you reached out to the other group of owners and invited them to this Dicourse to address the concerns raised by the community.

[JollyTheCoder]

Hello again, I’m continuing to respond to the remaining conversations.

First, @ayguero aka (Snapbox) stated that they responded to this conversation but received a warning that their response would only be displayed after manual review. Their response will be visible to you once it’s approved by the moderators.

@Morb

While what you say about on-chain transactions being public is true, affiliation between dapps mentioned in this audit has not been disclosed publicly, and it takes a trained eye to read the blockchain. I’ve tried to reach out to most of the dapps to confirm the affiliation.

Your statements continue to create confusion rather than clarity. I have personally reviewed the withdrawal transactions to the exit wallets of all the applications you referenced, one by one. As is publicly verifiable, these withdrawals were executed directly, without any intermediary steps or additional procedures. This is something that can be clearly observed by anyone and does not require specialized expertise to verify.

@Morb

Unanswered ticket on Plant2earn Discord

You did open a ticket here; however, I did not respond directly to it because you also raised the same points in the general chat. As everyone can confirm, I addressed all of those messages in the general chat accordingly. I apologize if this did not meet your expectation of receiving a separate, personalized response through the ticket system.

@Morb

Those are not claims, but facts. While it is true market conditions are unfavorable, it is up to the dapp owners to communicate this with the community and plan accordingly.
This brings up the question, if it’s challenging to maintain one dapp, why launch more dapps?

Another response you continue to repeat serves only to create further confusion and mischaracterization. I did not state that the withdrawal transactions were incorrect; I stated that omitting their equivalent value in U.S. dollars would only lead to greater confusion. The referenced 8,000 B3TR already corresponds to approximately $130, and I will be addressing the related expenses in detail below.

@Morb

Transfers to shared exit wallet with Ecobin (dapp that withdrew 98.5% of allocation);

Those who have been part of the Plant2Earn Discord community since its early days are familiar with shitmaniax, the owner of EcoBin. He served as a moderator in our channel for approximately one month, which can be verified through past channel announcements. Following the endorsement of the EcoBin project, he chose to step down from the moderator role, as he felt it would not be ethically appropriate to continue in that position.

I shared the link to this conversation with him; my responsibility ends at that point.

The use of a shared wallet is solely due to the fact that there is a legally registered company in our country responsible for properly taxing these revenues, and that company belongs to me. This arrangement is purely for legal and accounting purposes and has no connection whatsoever to any form of manipulation.

Additionally, the detailed breakdown of the EcoBin withdrawals is provided below. These withdrawals include gas fees, which should be taken into account. It is also important to note that as the value of B3TR decreases, the B3TR-equivalent value of VTHO correspondingly increases.

1.09.2025 → 400 b3tr / 0.084$ → 33,6$
15.09.2025 → 2770 b3tr / 0,084$ → 232,68$
22.09.2025 → 1440 b3tr / 0.094$ → 135,36$
8.10.2025 → 1400 b3tr / 0,074$ → 103,6$
1.11.2025 → 230 b3tr / 0,049$ → 11,27$
The total amount withdrawn is $516.51. Given that EcoBin has been active for a period of two months, this corresponds to an average monthly withdrawal of $258.25.

This information is based on my own research. As I mentioned earlier, he will provide further clarification himself. However, once I outline the Plant2Earn expenses, it will become clear that these monthly amounts are very small.

@Morb

The 10 winners of the giveaway were announced on 19th of August giving plenty of time to re-draw 2 remaining winners. Giveaway draw requirements (account age younger than the GA itself) and data (0 entries) raise concerns of manipulation (source). The 2 undistributed NFTs were transferred to owner wallets and used as a 10x multiplier on Plant2earn.

I can only speak of the publicly available data.
My conclusion is that there have not been any attempts to do another GA for 2 remaining NFTs until this audit.

I still do not fully understand what is meant by “manipulation” in this context. The link referenced in the source points to a raffle tool that is widely used by the web3 communities. This tool was deliberately used to ensure transparency in the raffle process, and the NFTs were distributed strictly to the addresses selected by the tool.

Because the NFT multiplier software was developed under a tight timeline, certain technical issues arose during the ownership verification and multiplier assignment processes. While these issues were being resolved, live testing was required, as the system was already deployed on the mainnet. In this context, it is entirely normal for the remaining NFTs to be used by members of the team for testing purposes.

It should also be noted that the database is under my control, and technically, I could assign a multiplier (even x10) without relying on NFTs at all. The fact that this approach was not taken clearly demonstrates that these actions were conducted solely for testing purposes and not for any form of manipulation.

Regarding the two undistributed NFTs, I clearly stated in the announcements that the method of distribution should be decided together with the community. No suggestions were made at the time, and this option is still open. You are also a member of our Discord channel; you are welcome to propose a distribution method, and we will implement it accordingly.

@Morb

Would be great if you disclosed dapps you are managing and you have affiliation with. Also, would be great if you reached out to the other group of owners and invited them to this Dicourse to address the concerns raised by the community.

The relevant people are aware of these conversations. I have fulfilled my responsibility by providing the necessary explanations and informing those who were not previously aware. From this point forward, I will only respond to questions directly related to Plant2Earn, B3TTERY, and 1MPXL. Any other matters will be addressed by the relevant parties themselves.

[JollyTheCoder]

@BreakingBallz

Is this other project you’re working on also for the dao?

What is 1MPXL ?
The 1MPXL project will not participate in DAO allocation voting. Its primary purpose is to increase voting participation for DApps and to revitalize the token through a B3TR holding mechanism.

I will share the relevant details if it become available within the WeWorld wallet. If this is not possible, I will migrate the project to the BASE ecosystem.

@BreakingBallz

Can I ask you. If you have a busy schedule and other life responsibilities, what do you feel is the purpose of having a dapp on the dao

VeChain is not the only network in which I am involved, nor is VBD the only DAO I participate in. I initially entered this ecosystem primarily as a DApp user, drawn by the idea itself and the way the DAO operates. Over time, I encouraged developers and programmers around me who shared the same enthusiasm to become involved as well.

I am convinced that the more applications and developers a crypto network attracts, the stronger and more sustainable that network becomes.

[BreakingBallz]

@JollyTheCoder

The relevant people are aware of these conversations. I have fulfilled my responsibility by providing the necessary explanations and informing those who were not previously aware. From this point forward, I will only respond to questions directly related to Plant2Earn, B3TTERY, and 1MPXL. Any other matters will be addressed by the relevant parties themselves.

When you say relevant people, I think that’s throwing some disrespect to our community and showing that you don’t fully understand how we are trying to build here. We are the ones who vote and write proposals and shape this dao. We are the ones who are “beta testing” your dApps to give feedback so you can grow it. Quite frankly, we are more relevant than the folks who just let you on and stop paying attention.

Even if you may disagree, I would then ask this. Did endorsers know of these relationships? Because if there’s anyone more relevant than the foundation team that grants you the creator NFT, it’s the people endorsing you. They should be given that information. Full Stop.

[JollyTheCoder]

@JollyTheCoder

The relevant people are aware of these conversations.

I believe I may have been misunderstood due to English not being my native language. When I stated that the relevant people were aware, I was referring specifically to the owners of the DApps involved in the discussion, not the community.

Additionally, I am preparing a document that will include visual evidence to support the expense list, and this has not been overlooked.

[Morb]

@Morb

@JollyTheCoder

This information has already been disclosed before, and there is no situation in which anything is being concealed.

Can you point to where this was disclosed?

Can you share where this was disclosed?

@JollyTheCoder

Your statements continue to create confusion rather than clarity. I have personally reviewed the withdrawal transactions to the exit wallets of all the applications you referenced, one by one. As is publicly verifiable, these withdrawals were executed directly, without any intermediary steps or additional procedures. This is something that can be clearly observed by anyone and does not require specialized expertise to verify.

You already agree with me. I reviewed publicly available data and published my findings.

@JollyTheCoder

You did open a ticket here; however, I did not respond directly to it because you also raised the same points in the general chat. As everyone can confirm, I addressed all of those messages in the general chat accordingly. I apologize if this did not meet your expectation of receiving a separate, personalized response through the ticket system.

False. I opened a ticket on 28th of Dec to ask questions privately. This audit was published on 3rd of January and was not discussed publicly before the publication.

@JollyTheCoder

These withdrawals include gas fees

All of the withdrawals were sent to the shared exit wallet with Plant2earn. None of the b3tr was swapped to VTHO and sent to reward distribution wallet of Ecobin.
You funded the reward distribution wallet of Ecobin with 1450 VTHO with your alternate account (Diyez). 602 VTHO was used to cover user tx costs, 220 VTHO is still in the wallet, 628 VTHO was transfered out (as seen in the connection scheme below).
Prior to this transfer you swapped 33 b3tr to 1500 VTHO. So, these are the gas costs that were not taken into consideration.

@JollyTheCoder

I shared the link to this conversation with him; my responsibility ends at that point.

The use of a shared wallet is solely due to the fact that there is a legally registered company in our country responsible for properly taxing these revenues, and that company belongs to me. This arrangement is purely for legal and accounting purposes and has no connection whatsoever to any form of manipulation.

(For unknown reason I’m unable to upload images, sharing on-chain connection scheme on Google Docs)

The google docs document further expands already addressed connections in the original post.
Based on the connections the only wallets that have ever interacted with Ecobin Treasury wallet are your wallets (Emrex, Diyez, shared exit wallet with Plant2earn). The last transactions from Ecobin treasury was 230 B3tr swap to Vet and transfer to your personal wallet.
Ecobin reward distribution wallet was used to transfer funds from Binance to your partners wallet more than a month after Ecobin lost endorsement.
On top of that, Ecobin Creator NFT holder wallet funded GoPaperoo! Creator NFT holder wallet, which in return funded B3ttery treasury wallet.

Based on these connections you have managed Ecobin wallets from first to last transaction.

@JollyTheCoder

I still do not fully understand what is meant by “manipulation” in this context

Account age after Aug 19th, 2025 (giveaway results were announced on 19th of August, making only eligible accounts created after the giveaway was announced)
Entries 0 and 10 winners (With 0 entries you can’t have any winners to a giveaway)

@JollyTheCoder

While these issues were being resolved, live testing was required, as the system was already deployed on the mainnet. In this context, it is entirely normal for the remaining NFTs to be used by members of the team for testing purposes.

In the announcement on Plant2earn Discord you mentioned the reason for not distributing the last 2 10x NFTs was because the winners failed to provide wallets/proofs.

@JollyTheCoder

these actions were conducted solely for testing purposes

Again, the information in the announcement contradicts what you’re saying now.

@JollyTheCoder

Regarding the two undistributed NFTs, I clearly stated in the announcements that the method of distribution should be decided together with the community.

Where was this announced?

@JollyTheCoder

I will only respond to questions directly related to Plant2Earn, B3TTERY, and 1MPXL

GoPaperoo?

[JollyTheCoder]

I will respond to all written remarks with this single, final, and technical statement.

x10 NFT distribution:
The phrase “after August 19th” in the X giveaway configuration was identified after the fact. Despite this, the distribution strictly followed the output of a third-party, publicly used lottery tool that I do not control. No manual intervention was performed. The recipients are well-known DAO participants, and all related transaction hashes have been publicly disclosed.

Once this configuration detail was noticed, it could and should have been raised immediately on Discord with a request to invalidate and rerun the giveaway. Deliberately remaining silent and later framing this as an allegation is constitutes bad faith.

Allegations of concealment:
I have repeatedly and explicitly stated that I am in direct communication with the relevant DApp owners and that source code has been shared where appropriate. Continuing to publish graphs or visuals suggesting hidden activity, despite these facts, is misleading and constitutes bad faith.

As is clearly evident from the images, our interactions with the DApp owners are open and transparent, with nothing being hidden.

Gas fee transactions:
Sending gas fees to a DApp owner we are in direct communication with, purely to enable necessary on-chain actions, is not inherently wrong nor indicative of any misconduct. Attempting to characterize transactions with a dollar-equivalent value below $3 as suspicious is constitutes bad faith.

I will continue to cover gas fees when requested by DApp owners. Framing this as an issue contradicts the collaborative and developer-support-oriented nature of a DAO and also constitutes bad faith.

Ticket and response timeline:
A ticket was opened on the 28th, and a related message was posted in the general chat on the 3rd. Both were reviewed on January 7th and addressed publicly in the general chat to ensure full visibility. This is a deliberate transparency choice, not neglect. Attempting to reframe this timeline as misconduct is constitutes bad faith.

The dates mentioned also coincide with the New Year celebrations, a period when much of the world is on holiday. I apologize for not being able to provide Morb with special treatment or prioritize his ticket in a way that would have personally satisfied him during the time I spent with my family.

Undistributed NFTs and testing:
The remaining NFTs are actively used for routine and regression testing. This is standard practice. Without such usage, diagnosing issues related to NFT ownership or multiplier assignment on mainnet would not be possible.

For absolute clarity: NFT multipliers can be assigned directly at the database level without NFT ownership. Any competent developer is aware of this. We intentionally do not use that capability.

Conclusion:
We can raffle five x10 NFTs using any rules you define. You may execute the raffle independently, and we will transfer the NFTs to the resulting wallets, or we can transfer the NFTs to you for redistribution.Extending this part of the discussion further has no technical or operational value and constitutes bad faith.

[ayguero]

Hello everyone,

First of all, I’ve been trying to reply to you here for two days, but my replies keep going to moderator approval. Since my replies have been waiting for approval for two days, I decided to create a new account and try again.

[ayguero]

I have carefully read the post prepared by @morb, and I believe there are some misunderstandings that need to be clarified. I will address these points under separate headings below.

Familiarity With Application Owners

I am personally acquainted with the owner of the B3TR Smile dApp and the owner of Plant2Earn.

While developing my application, I received source code–level technical support from KickedByJolly, whom I already knew. However, there is no involvement on his part in the management of my application, nor is there any financial partnership or revenue sharing between us.

I also previously worked at the same company as the owner of B3TR Smile. Since his Web3 knowledge was limited, I helped him with the development of his application and provided technical support when needed. At times, we also consulted KickedByJolly together on technical matters.

The Origin of the Walkie Application

The Walkie application emerged after my wife suggested the idea, as Withings app was not functioning properly on our phones.

As an alternative to the existing health applications within the DAO, I developed a system where people using smartwatches can earn certain rewards based on their daily step counts.

The idea behind Walkie belongs to my wife

Since she is not a software developer, I am responsible for the development and current management of the application

The application has an X account under the name @walkiespace

Transfers to the Same Exit Wallet as B3TR Smile

In the region we live in, there is currently no active taxation system for crypto earnings. However, for potential retroactive audits, our personal accounts are reported to the tax authorities.

In order to properly tax these revenues if a future regulation is introduced, it is necessary to operate through an officially registered company capable of issuing invoices. Among the dApps mentioned, only Jolly and I currently own registered companies.

Therefore, consolidating these revenues in a single place is the most correct and legally compliant approach for potential future taxation.
This situation has no relation to VeChain and is entirely due to accounting and legal considerations.

Manual Withdrawal of User Rewards

Selecting the “Rewards Distribution” label was a mistake stemming from my inexperience at the early stages of the application. There was no malicious intent behind this choice.

Since the remaining balance after user distributions would eventually be transferred to an exit wallet anyway, I did not initially give this issue enough attention. Later on, in order to avoid disrupting the charts on VeDelegate and to prevent confusion, I continued using this approach.

However, following Morb’s report, I have realized that I must be more careful and properly label allocated budgets correctly.

There has never been any manipulation of user rewards. In Snapbox, users receive daily rewards, and the remaining amount from weekly distributions is allocated to AI costs, server expenses, internal team payments, and other operational invoices.

Additional Multipliers for Snapbox Users

Due to the long-term downward trend of $B3TR, Snapbox and other dApps experienced a decrease in both user numbers and votes.

To counter this, I increased the daily maximum user reward from 0.45 $B3TR to 0.80 $B3TR. Afterwards, I developed a multiplier system to encourage users to vote for DAO applications and Snapbox.

With this system, users who vote can earn up to 2.40 $B3TR per day. I fail to see what is problematic about this approach, as many dApps already use similar incentive mechanisms.

The Alleged 40 $B3TR Sent to Manual Wallets Is Actually 50 $B3TR

The mentioned amount refers to a total of 50 $B3TR distributed to winners as part of a giveaway I conducted on X.

The transaction IDs related to this distribution were previously shared on my X account, which has since been suspended:

Why X Account DMs Being Closed

Previously, I was communicating with users through my X account named snapboxonline. During the first weeks of the application, due to issues in the reward distribution mechanism, some users did not receive their rewards. In such cases, I collected their wallet addresses via this account and made manual transfers.

However, X appears to have interpreted this activity as suspicious or fraudulent behavior, and as a result, the account was suspended.

While I was in the process of attempting to recover the suspended account, I also wanted to avoid losing communication with users. Therefore, I created a new account named snapboxonlinee and disabled direct messages to prevent encountering the same issue again.

I am aware that this caused a communication gap with users. I am currently working on establishing communication with users through an alternative platform to ensure more reliable and transparent interaction going forward.

Final Summary

To summarize, Snapbox and Walkie are the only applications under my direct management.
I provide technical support to the B3TR Smile application when needed and consult Jolly regarding issues I encounter and planned updates.

[Morb]

To sum up this back and forth conversation.

1. Kicked By Jolly manages Ecobin, Plant2earn, B3ttery, GoPaperoo! wallets;

2. The shared exit wallet by Ecobin and Plant2earn is owned by Kicked by Jolly;

3. Kicked by Jolly is in direct communication with owners of B3tr smile, Snapbox, Walkie and has shared source code of the platforms;

4. Plant2earn have offered to raffle five 10x NFTs to their users;

5. Ecobin owner is Shitmaniax (there is no fundamental evidence confirming this);

6. Owner of Snapbox and Walkie has disclosed his ownership of the dapps and connections with owner of B3tr smile;

7. B3tr smile and Snapbox share the same wallets (including exit wallet);

8. We have yet to hear from B3tr smile team, but based on interaction with the members of the community they think the developers of other connected dapps will smile. This is something we can’t confirm or deny. Will have to guess.

   

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[BreakingBallz]

Any update on the costs you spoke of sharing?

[Morb]

Round 81 Stats

12th Jan - 18th Jan

Plant2earn
Allocation received: 8152.42 b3tr (1878.62 based on votes)
Manual withdrawals: 0
Rewards with proofs: 793 b3tr
Rewards with proof % from allocation: 9.72%

Kicked by Jolly shared on Plant2earn discord:

1. there will be 10x multiplier giveaway;
2. He will be raising questions about other dApps.

There are no other updates. We’re still looking forward to the promised information from Kicked by Jolly about the costs associated with running a dApp.

B3tr smile

Allocation received: 8152.24 b3tr (1878.62 based on votes)
Manual withdrawals: 147 b3tr (1.8%) (2 withdrawals, both “Gas Fee“)
Rewards with proofs: 3576 b3tr
Rewards with proof % from allocation: 43%

There have been no communication from the team.

B3ttery

Allocation received: 6743.45 b3tr (469.65 based on votes)
Manual withdrawals: 0
Rewards with proofs: 88 b3tr
Rewards with proof % from allocation: 1.3%

B3ttery owner Kicked by Jolly mentioned on Plant2earn discord he will create a separate communication channel for B3ttery.

Snapbox

Allocation received: 7213.11 b3tr (939.31 based on votes)
Manual withdrawals: 6113 b3tr (84.74%) (gas fee and Team allocation share)
Rewards with proofs: 563 b3tr
Rewards with proof % from allocation: 7.8%

No public communication from the team.

GoPaperoo! and Walkie
Not endorsed